Comments on: James Toney: “Randy Couture is Gonna Be on His Way to the Hospital” http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/ 5thRound.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:42:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: herb http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-22912 herb Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:04:58 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-22912 Tony was taken down with no problem, with a single leg takedown. hmmmm, were was those fantastic short power punches that were supposed to catch Couture on the way in and knock him out? Tony tapped out rather than going to sleepy land, via a shoulder squeeze arm triangle choke.hmmmm, thought Tony had this "no problem". Tony was beat by an older, and lighter opponent. You need at LEAST two things for MMA, boxing skills and wrestling skills. You take a tough sport like boxing, and add another tough sport like wrestling, and you combine them and make it 10 times more tough. Funny thing about MMA, you can be great at Jiu-jitsu, but suck at MMA, Yopu can be a olyimpic gold medal wrestler and get you head handed to you in MMA. You can be a reknowned boxer and get skunked. Tony could do well with his boxing in future MMA fights, but he has to expand outside of his knowledge base, learn how to wrestle, and intergrate it with his boxing. Im not a hater. love boxing, it's essintial for MMA, along with wrestling. hope Tony keeps on keeping on, and trains smarter, now that he knows what the higher level of MMA can bring. Tony was taken down with no problem, with a single leg takedown. hmmmm, were was those fantastic short power punches that were supposed to catch Couture on the way in and knock him out?

Tony tapped out rather than going to sleepy land, via a shoulder squeeze arm triangle choke.hmmmm, thought Tony had this “no problem”.

Tony was beat by an older, and lighter opponent.

You need at LEAST two things for MMA, boxing skills and wrestling skills. You take a tough sport like boxing, and add another tough sport like wrestling, and you combine them and make it 10 times more tough.

Funny thing about MMA, you can be great at Jiu-jitsu, but suck at MMA, Yopu can be a olyimpic gold medal wrestler and get you head handed to you in MMA. You can be a reknowned boxer and get skunked.
Tony could do well with his boxing in future MMA fights, but he has to expand outside of his knowledge base, learn how to wrestle, and intergrate it with his boxing.

Im not a hater. love boxing, it’s essintial for MMA, along with wrestling. hope Tony keeps on keeping on, and trains smarter, now that he knows what the higher level of MMA can bring.

]]> By: P3love http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-22515 P3love Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:14:34 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-22515 Art Jimmerson was a fifteen fight novice who knew nothing about gracie and admits it. So what? Art Jimmerson was a fifteen fight novice who knew nothing about gracie and admits it. So what?

]]> By: P3love http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-22512 P3love Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:04:00 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-22512 big easy asshole - that guy you mentioned was a bum - an unknown. mma ufc want to crown their walls with the heads of old over the hill boxers who have nowhere else to go. Toney is an exception - another reason is would a cricket player who makes alot of money go across to baseball for alot less? Boxing is far bigger with the elite guys making 20 million dollars - that cannot be matched by your steroid sport. That is why. And I said already that if Toney wins it proves he was the best man that night not that boxing is better than mma. Dont fucking insult my sport and I wont insult yours. big easy asshole – that guy you mentioned was a bum – an unknown. mma ufc want to crown their walls with the heads of old over the hill boxers who have nowhere else to go. Toney is an exception – another reason is would a cricket player who makes alot of money go across to baseball for alot less? Boxing is far bigger with the elite guys making 20 million dollars – that cannot be matched by your steroid sport. That is why. And I said already that if Toney wins it proves he was the best man that night not that boxing is better than mma. Dont fucking insult my sport and I wont insult yours.

]]> By: P3love http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-22510 P3love Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:53:31 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-22510 You thick idiots! James Toney wont have the big gloves to protect him. I never underestimated MMA but by fuck you certainly underestimate boxing and know fuck all about the noble art. Smaller gloves mean more punching power. Hey Mutant Prick or whatever your name is - you say boxers are stupid?! Toney is going to your sport and not the other way around. The guy that put Brock on his arse gassed out because he couldnt throw short punches and they become arm punches - you dim wits wont know what Im talking about - leverage is everything and yes you can still punch from your back - in fact harder as your whole body is planted and not just your feet. Just remember also Toney came to your sport. Punching is an art and so is foot work - as well as avoiding blows and or mad rushes with your head down - 2 fast uppercuts - followed by a throw by Toney and then G and P all the way baby!!! You thick idiots! James Toney wont have the big gloves to protect him. I never underestimated MMA but by fuck you certainly underestimate boxing and know fuck all about the noble art. Smaller gloves mean more punching power. Hey Mutant Prick or whatever your name is – you say boxers are stupid?! Toney is going to your sport and not the other way around. The guy that put Brock on his arse gassed out because he couldnt throw short punches and they become arm punches – you dim wits wont know what Im talking about – leverage is everything and yes you can still punch from your back – in fact harder as your whole body is planted and not just your feet.
Just remember also Toney came to your sport. Punching is an art and so is foot work – as well as avoiding blows and or mad rushes with your head down – 2 fast uppercuts – followed by a throw by Toney and then G and P all the way baby!!!

]]> By: bababooey http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-22164 bababooey Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:50:46 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-22164 ray mercer is about 50 yrs old. He was a journeymen fighter, never held any titles and he knocked out former UFC heavyweight champion tim sylvia with one punch two seconds into the fight. james toney is 5'9" natural middleweight (160 lbs) that is now an old fat guy--hardly representative of an elite boxer at this stage so if he loses it really won't shed any light on this debate. However, if he wins it may expose the "karate master" guys as a tier below practioners of the sweet science. Can you imagine if Couture was fighting one the Klitchko bros? ray mercer is about 50 yrs old. He was a journeymen fighter, never held any titles and he knocked out former UFC heavyweight champion tim sylvia with one punch two seconds into the fight. james toney is 5’9″ natural middleweight (160 lbs) that is now an old fat guy–hardly representative of an elite boxer at this stage so if he loses it really won’t shed any light on this debate. However, if he wins it may expose the “karate master” guys as a tier below practioners of the sweet science. Can you imagine if Couture was fighting one the Klitchko bros?

]]> By: SuperDuke http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-21771 SuperDuke Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:04:18 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-21771 one more thing...fighting isn't 2 guys with boxing gloves slugging it out in a ring. fighting is 2 guys using whatever knowledge, skills, training or know-how they got to take the other guy out and put him away. boxing's definition of "fighting" is so limited. take away the referee, the cage and the audience and put 2 guys in an alley...if no one stops one guy from dropping his choke hold he's liable to choke the other guy to death...that's winning a fight to. one more thing…fighting isn’t 2 guys with boxing gloves slugging it out in a ring. fighting is 2 guys using whatever knowledge, skills, training or know-how they got to take the other guy out and put him away. boxing’s definition of “fighting” is so limited. take away the referee, the cage and the audience and put 2 guys in an alley…if no one stops one guy from dropping his choke hold he’s liable to choke the other guy to death…that’s winning a fight to.

]]> By: SuperDuke http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-21769 SuperDuke Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:48:48 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-21769 i'm an mma fan who only watches boxing when it's pacquiao fighting...and i gotta say...the hardcore purist boxing fans posting over here are retarded. if james toney wins 1 fucking fight "the UFC myth is destroyed" and "it proves that mma is garbage"??? blah blah... please bitches think with your heads. so if an mma fighter beat a boxer that would prove undeniably once and for all that boxing and boxers suck? ignorant motherfuckers! even if Toney miraculously pulls of a win over Randy it won't mean shit! want to know why? easy...1 fight, 1 test, 1 time, 1 try, 1 venture...1 whatever don't prove shit! it's like walking into a park once and seeing a squirrel and fucking saying that squirrel's are the only animals at the park. you fuckin' retarded or what?! how the fuck are you supposed to predict patterns and create hypothesis and eventually establish fact based knowledge without continuous repitition and trial to prove anything? it's like someone tasting apple juice for the first time and saying it's the greatest juice ever and the only juice! tell you what you narrowminded...ignorant...boxing purist bitches...if JT can beat Randy twice, then win over Dos Santos, Nogueira, Velasquez and Lesnar...then he's the man. if another boxer can come into another mma/ufc weight division and do the same...take out the best mma's got with little more than their boxing experience on their side...then mma is a fucking joke...you purists are right and all us mma fans are your bitches...BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT NONE OF YOUR "BOXERS" CAN ACTUALLY PULL IT OFF! another problem with you idiot purists is that y'all forgot UFC 1 - 25. try watching and actually learning something from it. none of you idiots bothered to watch i'm sure...for those of you too stupid to try i'll break it down for you. early UFC taught us 3 things. 1.) in a real no holds barred any style match-up fight...the guy who doesn't know how to fight on the ground is at a disadvantage. 2.) size, though important and a great asset in some instances does not guarantee victory...tactics and skills do! 3.) strike all you want...bring in whatever boxing record you have...this ain't a fist fight...it's a fight...PERIOD...elbows...knees...chokes...shoulder smashes...dirty boxing...leg kicks...muay thai attacks...greco roman take-downs...pancrase...sambo...etc, etc, etc...you better be able to adapt 'cuz there ain't no cryin' to the ref...ref stops the fight when 1 fighter can no longer continue...THAT'S MMA...(bitches) i’m an mma fan who only watches boxing when it’s pacquiao fighting…and i gotta say…the hardcore purist boxing fans posting over here are retarded. if james toney wins 1 fucking fight “the UFC myth is destroyed” and “it proves that mma is garbage”??? blah blah… please bitches think with your heads. so if an mma fighter beat a boxer that would prove undeniably once and for all that boxing and boxers suck? ignorant motherfuckers! even if Toney miraculously pulls of a win over Randy it won’t mean shit! want to know why? easy…1 fight, 1 test, 1 time, 1 try, 1 venture…1 whatever don’t prove shit! it’s like walking into a park once and seeing a squirrel and fucking saying that squirrel’s are the only animals at the park. you fuckin’ retarded or what?! how the fuck are you supposed to predict patterns and create hypothesis and eventually establish fact based knowledge without continuous repitition and trial to prove anything? it’s like someone tasting apple juice for the first time and saying it’s the greatest juice ever and the only juice! tell you what you narrowminded…ignorant…boxing purist bitches…if JT can beat Randy twice, then win over Dos Santos, Nogueira, Velasquez and Lesnar…then he’s the man. if another boxer can come into another mma/ufc weight division and do the same…take out the best mma’s got with little more than their boxing experience on their side…then mma is a fucking joke…you purists are right and all us mma fans are your bitches…BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT AIN’T GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT NONE OF YOUR “BOXERS” CAN ACTUALLY PULL IT OFF! another problem with you idiot purists is that y’all forgot UFC 1 – 25. try watching and actually learning something from it. none of you idiots bothered to watch i’m sure…for those of you too stupid to try i’ll break it down for you. early UFC taught us 3 things. 1.) in a real no holds barred any style match-up fight…the guy who doesn’t know how to fight on the ground is at a disadvantage. 2.) size, though important and a great asset in some instances does not guarantee victory…tactics and skills do! 3.) strike all you want…bring in whatever boxing record you have…this ain’t a fist fight…it’s a fight…PERIOD…elbows…knees…chokes…shoulder smashes…dirty boxing…leg kicks…muay thai attacks…greco roman take-downs…pancrase…sambo…etc, etc, etc…you better be able to adapt ‘cuz there ain’t no cryin’ to the ref…ref stops the fight when 1 fighter can no longer continue…THAT’S MMA…(bitches)

]]> By: bababooey http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-21645 bababooey Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:05:08 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-21645 Didn't 50 yr old Ray Mercer knock out former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia with one punch a few seconds into the first round? Didn’t 50 yr old Ray Mercer knock out former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia with one punch a few seconds into the first round?

]]> By: Bulldawg55 http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-21498 Bulldawg55 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:31:37 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-21498 MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) started out as close as you can get to NO HOLDS BARRED FIGHTING (without restrictions or rules) as you can get. It has evolved into a little more restrictive style with fighters using multple discplines, opposed to when fighters used to use mostly one discpline.You could say todays fighters are more well rounded and adaptable. Toney knows this but expects to rely on his powerfull punching. I think if he doesn't get in a fighting ending punch early and ends up on the ground he'll be like a fish out of water.THIS IS NOT BOXING! Not WRESTLING,KARATE,JUDO, or JUJITSU etc. It is MMA and the most well rounded fighter most likely will prevail. For Toney, it's get that punch or punches in before getting taken down into Randy's world! For Randy, it's don't get hit too hard as you take him down! MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) started out as close as you can get to NO HOLDS BARRED FIGHTING (without restrictions or rules) as you can get. It has evolved into a little more restrictive style with fighters using multple discplines, opposed to when fighters used to use mostly one discpline.You could say todays fighters are more well rounded and adaptable. Toney knows this but expects to rely on his powerfull punching. I think if he doesn’t get in a fighting ending punch early and ends up on the ground he’ll be like a fish out of water.THIS IS NOT BOXING! Not WRESTLING,KARATE,JUDO, or JUJITSU etc. It is MMA and the most well rounded fighter most likely will prevail. For Toney, it’s get that punch or punches in before getting taken down into Randy’s world! For Randy, it’s don’t get hit too hard as you take him down!

]]> By: joe http://www.5thRound.com/44840/james-toney-randy-couture-is-gonna-be-on-his-way-to-the-hospital/#comment-21489 joe Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:54:22 +0000 http://www.5thRound.com/?p=44840#comment-21489 cmon randy couture got beat up by a wwe wrestler what makes you think hes going to beat a boxer? cmon randy couture got beat up by a wwe wrestler what makes you think hes going to beat a boxer?

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